Rockbox for the Fuze V1 "Unstable" release

My warranty expires in April, so I’m fine waiting(kind of, but not really).

Unfortunatle I got a Version 2 Fuze 8GB…

I do wish SanDisk would just share whatever it needed to to help Rockbox programmers.

I would actively advertise SanDisk’s products if they would help Rockbox work on the Sansa Fuze V2’s.

SanDisk stands to make more money from consumers if they would have Rockbox as an option.

I would buy family members Fuze’s for Christmas/B-Day/Other gifts, if I knew they would not be stuck with the current set of firmwares…

I am sure others would take the plunge and buy one or more if they knkew their purchase had 2 avenues of player firmware.

I might not want to play Doom, but having the option is cool…

Anyway, I hope V2 Fuze’s are supported by Rockbox sooner than later…

Thanks,

Eric

Don’t wait Saxmaster. Seriously.

Check out the manual. Ifthat doesn’t convince you, nothing will. :wink:

 Rockbox - Daily Built Manuals

Up until now, the rockbox firmware never displayed any of my album arts in the while playing screen, while in the OF, they were displayed, is this a known bug ?

@paleskin wrote:
Up until now, the rockbox firmware never displayed any of my album arts in the while playing screen, while in the OF, they were displayed, is this a known bug ?

It works for me. Do you have the art in the right folder? What is it named? All mine is named “folder.jpg” & shows up great in both Rockbox & the OF.

Short answer:  you probably have it arranged in some weird way that the playback software can’t find it or figure out which album goes with which art, or are using some unsupported format.

Long answer:  read the manual theres a whole section explaining all the different ways you can put your album art. 

paleskin wrote:
Up until now, the rockbox firmware never displayed any of my album arts in the while playing screen, while in the OF, they were displayed, is this a known bug ?

Up until recent version, Rockbox did not support the .jpg image format for album art. There was a .jpg viewer, and you could look at your art manually (or other photos), but your album art had to be in .bmp format for it to display in the WPS (While Playing Screen).

Subsequent advancements in the Rockbox code has added .jpg support.


paleskin wrote:
Up until now, the rockbox firmware never displayed any of my album arts in the while playing screen, while in the OF, they were displayed, is this a known bug ?

 

Up until recent versions, Rockbox did not support the .jpg image format for album art. There was a .jpg viewer, and you could look at your art manually (or other photos), but your album art had to be in .bmp format for it to display in the WPS (While Playing Screen).

 

Subsequent advancements in the Rockbox code has added .jpg support.

 

@tapeworm wrote:


@paleskin wrote:
Up until now, the rockbox firmware never displayed any of my album arts in the while playing screen, while in the OF, they were displayed, is this a known bug ?


 

Up until recent versions, Rockbox did not support the .jpg image format for album art. There was a .jpg viewer, and you could look at your art manually (or other photos), but your album art had to be in .bmp format for it to display in the WPS (While Playing Screen).

 

Subsequent advancements in the Rockbox code has added .jpg support.

 

jpeg support predates stable decoding on the Fuze, so if hes able to listen to audio for more then a couple seconds hes definitely running a build with jpeg.

@esaratoga wrote:


@tapeworm wrote:


@paleskin wrote:
Up until now, the rockbox firmware never displayed any of my album arts in the while playing screen, while in the OF, they were displayed, is this a known bug ?


 

Up until recent versions, Rockbox did not support the .jpg image format for album art. There was a .jpg viewer, and you could look at your art manually (or other photos), but your album art had to be in .bmp format for it to display in the WPS (While Playing Screen).

 

Subsequent advancements in the Rockbox code has added .jpg support.

 


 

jpeg support predates stable decoding on the Fuze, so if hes able to listen to audio for more then a couple seconds hes definitely running a build with jpeg.

Up until now, I only use media monkey to arrange my music and to transferring to sansa fuze, I guess the rockbox handle album art in different ways than the OF, I’ll check the manual again

Update : my mistake, all of my album arts are embedded in the tags, and rockbox doesn’t support it, to copy all the cover.jpg from each folder in hundreds of folders to fuze will take a long long long time, I guess I’ll past then, thanks

Message Edited by paleskin on 12-09-2009 02:58 PM

Message Edited by paleskin on 12-09-2009 03:00 PM

Actually you don’t need folders. Simply name your album art the same as each album and put the music and all AA in one folder.

@martylk wrote:
Actually you don’t need folders. Simply name your album art the same as each album and put the music and all AA in one folder.

Yeah, renaming hundreds of jpeg files, and merging hundreds of folders into one, I presumed easier than copy the jpeg file one by one into each corresponding folder in sansa fuze ? =p

Actually, RB won’t display AA named folder. Unless it has changed. I tried a many ways to get AA to display on my RB DAPs and accidentally…yeah, I never read manuals because I have ADS…came upon naming the files the same as the album.

One other thing, you can have Media Monkey do most of the work. You can set your DAP up to have MM copy files to it with or without folders and choose to copy the embedded AA with folder or album naming.

Oh, and mp3tag will move all of your music files from their folders to wherever you want. It won’t move AA but it will make it easier to handle the music files…unless they are WAV. mp3tag doesn’t do WAV files.

Message Edited by MartyLK on 12-09-2009 08:29 PM

I use RB… have my albums in separate folders and all folders have their own folder.jpg AA files  and all work fine under RB…

@timn wrote:
I use RB… have my albums in separate folders and all folders have their own folder.jpg AA files  and all work fine under RB…

Hmmm…I wonder what I’m doing wrong then.

**bleep** you Apple for making everyone so addiceted to Album art.

I agree that album art is cool, and I did spend a lot of time fixing much of my music with Art… and Rockbox broke it so now almost all my music has the same album cover.

But a deal breaker? No way… Who gives a rats behind if your 1.8 inch screen doesn’t display a 1 cm square album cover. Seriously? 

Before album art we all got along just fine with our DAP.

lol :wink:

@peregrine wrote:

**bleep** you Apple for making everyone so addiceted to Album art.

I agree that album art is cool, and I did spend a lot of time fixing much of my music with Art… and Rockbox broke it so now almost all my music has the same album cover.

 

But a deal breaker? No way… Who gives a rats behind if your 1.8 inch screen doesn’t display a 1 cm square album cover. Seriously? 

 

Before album art we all got along just fine with our DAP.

 

lol :wink:

 

It depends… Sometimes the album art is better than the music on the album!  :smileyvery-happy:

Peregrine wrote:

**bleep** you Apple for making everyone so addiceted to Album art.

I agree that album art is cool, and I did spend a lot of time fixing much of my music with Art… and Rockbox broke it so now almost all my music has the same album cover.

 

But a deal breaker? No way… Who gives a rats behind if your 1.8 inch screen doesn’t display a 1 cm square album cover. Seriously? 

 

Before album art we all got along just fine with our DAP.

 

lol :wink:

 

All the Clip & Clip+ users (and iPod Shuffle users, come to think of it) as well seem to get along perfectly fine w/o seeing album art. Additionally, there are many Rockbox themes that don’t display it. Basically it comes down to a choice (with RB themes) of whether you want to see a picture of the album playing or having more data, or information about the song playing. Sometimes there’s not room for both on such a small screen.

And let’s face it . . . do we spend our time looking at the screen, or listening to music with the player tucked away in a pocket, in an armband, belt clip or other out-of-sight location?

Personally, I have about 10 RB themes loaded on my e260v1 machine. None of them display album art, and I don’t miss it a bit. I like it when it’s available, but I’m not going to cry about it if it’s not.

Message Edited by Tapeworm on 12-10-2009 08:54 AM

It is a deal breaker for me. I like being able to see album art, even if it is postage stamp sized. I’m not a programmer, but is getting the player to simply display embedded album art REALLY this hard? I mean, album art embedding in MP3s is pretty standardized right?

So I dont used Rockbox for music stuff. But it is still pretty dam cool. Playing Doom 2 on my $2000 PC in the 90s, I never imagined I would someday be playing it on a $50 MP3 player. Being able to play arcade-perfect game ROMs is pretty sweet too. 

As long as I can switch between the OS’s at will, it doesnt really bother me that I cant use Rockbox for music.  Just takes a couple seconds to re-boot into the original firmware whenever I want.

Message Edited by pruje on 12-10-2009 08:58 AM

@pruje wrote:

I’m not a programmer, but is getting the player to simply display embedded album art REALLY this hard? I mean, album art embedding in MP3s is pretty standardized right?

 

 

Yes its fairly hard in the case of mp3 because the jpegs are stored scrambled and not as directly readable files.   The spec designers clearly intended that anyone decoding them would be on a normal PC and could simply descramble the jpeg into a new files before passing it to a jpeg decoder.  But that doesn’t work in rockbox since when we’re buffering files from the disk we have no such memory available to store jpegs until they’re needed.  The solution I guess is probably to do something like rewrite the mp3 file as its being buffered to have a normal jpeg file appended to it, or else to write a jpeg decoder that could understand scrambled jpegs.  Neither is really all that easy.   

It’d be easier for other formats though.