What kind of reply is that? Ok, I guess it’s gloves off, huh? Your just freakin’ wrong. Whatever would make one think the leakage of a battery has anything to do with whether it has a memory affect. That’s just lame.
Did you even read the article? I didn’t contradict myself. Nor does wikipedia. Saying the batteries have a 30% leakage rate/month and that they try to reduce that isn’t a contradiction in an way shape or form. In fact, would seem like a good design goal to make their batteries better. Huh? Read the article or stay ignorant. The article is pertinant to rebut a lame claim that the leakage somehow reduces the memory effect.
I got 17 hours of playback over approx. 32 hour period. I can count and I can keep track of when it was being played. Pretty basic stuff. You can question my results all you want, but it is what it is. I have data - you have nothing with which to dispute me. I’m sorry it’s hard for you to understand how someone can turn their player off and on over a couple days and keep track of the play time. And sorry yours only goes 9 hours.
You probably got a lemon there. It has nothing to do with firmware or whatever it was. Just go and tell them about the problem and exchange for a new better one with no hardware defective parts and you should be able to enjoy music with long lasting battery even after leaving them idle for days. Just exchange them and leave all the hassle about figuring out things to SanDisk to correct this. Don’t waste your time and get frustrated.
phew so its not just me…
i got the 2gb for christmas and its been terrible with the battery.
I mostly only use it for gym, i went for my third workout today, with each workout lasting no more than an hour… and it ran dead flat! so thats probably just over 3 hours… that was off a full charge and yes i am turning it off properly, so yeah id say my battery is quite a dud!
I ran my fully charged clip continuously with a timer. 1/2 volume. Activated the display a few times to look at the battery indicator during the run. It ran 16 hours. 23 minutes before it shut itself down. No question about it.
This test was done in shuffle mode with the following distribution of bitrates:
Variable bitrate files were reported at their median bitrate.
I got about 40 hrs with an external AA NiMH battery pack, but one battery was either not fully charged or is bad. It’s output had dropped to .89V while the other 3 were still at 1.24V, so I aborted the test. Have to repeat.
I use my clip in my car with the Griffin Itrip universal. I leave the power plugged in all the time to avoid the auto shutoff, which is a problem. Will this constant and mostly short-term charging decrease the battery life?
I just read some interesting information in another thread here about battery life vs bit rate. Someone stated that the higher the bit rate of the mp3s you have the harder the cpu has to work thus the shorter the battery life. That would explain why I do not get the full 15 hours per charge. I always use music recorded at high bit rates.
The people getting the full playback of 15 hours were using a rate of 128 kbit or less.
I last charged my Clip on Thursday (today is Tuesday) and I’ve played about 4 hours of music at 3/4’s volume (128kbs files) and my charge still shows 87% (Meter on the Clip still in the 100% position)…guess I’m lucky- I got one of the good ones.
Concerning the battery life problems, it kinda seems to me that the blue Clips seem to have the battery drain/short life problems more so than the other colors…can anyone confirm this…or is it just a coincidence? (I have a red one…I wanted a blue, but it cost a few bucks more…so I went with the red- this is my first mp3 player, and I’m glad to report that it’s worked flawlessly from the moment I unpacked it)
Interesting… Since I last charged mine, I’ve played about 4 hrs of music(unless I miscounted?) & today the battery meter went down to 75% a short while after I turned it on this morning. All of my mp3s are at 128 kbps as well, & I use the lowest volume(soon to change with firmware). Cllipman, perhaps your battery meter is about to go down like mine?
Sansafix, is my calculation correct? Does 4 hrs of use equal 25% of battery power? Just wondering…
Message Edited by Sasafrass452 on 01-15-2008 06:16 PM
Amazingly, I checked my charge by connecting briefly to the computer in MTP mode, and right-clicking on the Clip icon, then selecting “properties” (I think that’s how I did it) and it said the battery was 87%. Hmmm…that is kind of amazing, isn’t it?! Also, virtually all of my listening has been while out in the cold at night (c. 30*)- don’t know if temp effects lith-poly batteries or not though…
Seems like my Clip is making up for the lemons that some people got! (Which is ironic, because I’m usually the schlepp who gets the lemon!)
EDIT: -and I’ve got my EQ tweaked for heavey bass!
Cllipman, does your battery meter show 75% yet? I’m baffled as to how you seem to be getting better mileage from your battery, even though we’ve used it about the same amount of time, the same bitrate, & you even adjusted the EQ for extra base. You’re also using higher volume than me. Not that I’m complaining, since I’m getting the average amount of battery power… But this is quite puzzling!
Just turned on my Clip to double check it- still showing 100%!!! I don’t get it either! I must’ve gotten an extra good battery…
And to think- I almost didn’t buy the Clip, because it has a non-replaceable internal battery! (I’ve always had good luck with Lithiums though- years ago when I had a cell phone, which had a lithium-ion, I also used to get great performance from it)
When I got my Clip, it was totally dead- and I charged it fully before using it…but from what I’ve seen on this and other forums, it seems that some units are shipped with partial charges. (Either that, or stores are selling returned ones as new)- I have a feeling that it’s important with these Lith-poly batteries, that they be shipped without a charge (as slow, self-discharge as they sit on the shelf potentially for months, is very bad for the batt.) and that it’s important that the purchaser FULLY charge them the first time, before use.
I don’t know why I’m getting “extra mileage” from my batt.- but I ain’t complainin’!
Are you sure you’ve used it for at least 4 hrs since the last time you charged it? Not saying you’re wrong, just reaffirming… This is certainly interesting! I did fully charge mine before using it the first time, so who knows…
Once again Sansafix I was wondering if you were affiliated with Sandisk tech support or just one of us lay people. It would be nice if someone from there would frequent this forum and support their product.
